2nd October 2007

Did You Waste Your Money On UYMG?

posted in Negative Thoughts, State Of Mind, Feelings, Empty Your Cup, Attitude, Delivering Values, Unhappy |

Hey Folks,

Today I’ll be heading back to Singapore so you should start getting regular post again from tomorrow onwards :)

Before I go off, I would like to share with you this comment I got from an obviously unsatisfied customer of the event. Here is what he/she has to say:

I Am Unhappy
“Hi. I am also attending the UYMG here in Kuala Lumpur. We bought the package in Singapore at the World Internet Summit last May. I’ve been expecting to have a lot of hands on during the workshop but I’m very disappointed because instead of doing hands on, we’re here to just listen to a lot of presenters.Too bad! My expectations are high and some presenters under delivered. I did not buy another package anymore; instead I’m gonna start doing the real stuff. Did you buy any of the speaker’s offer?”

What is your opinion?
- Was it an expectation mismatch?
- Was there really no content worth learning or taking away from?
- Did the presenters really under delivered?
- Was selling at this type of event wrong?
- Or was it just the mind set of the participant?

We invite you to share with us your opinion, views, experiences you may have on this issue.

Cheers
James

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  1. 1 On October 2nd, 2007, jaunesk said:

    I receive the same post on my blog. Obviously he/she is very upset. What I can say it “You always get what you are looking for.” And I will answer it on my blog.

    SK
    http://blog.successdynamic.com

  2. 2 On October 3rd, 2007, Dorothy Stahlnecker said:

    Even though I wasn’t there, I’m a believer that if you have an issue, put it out on the table and get it resolved…good for you…nothing is perfect and most things are a work in progress….with progress being important….

    Good luck on your trip..
    Dorothy from grammology
    call your grandma

  3. 3 On October 5th, 2007, Donald said:

    i heard many negative feedback from many people about UYMG KL too.. the key to this I believe is the mismatch in expectations. many newbies are expecting hands-on to build an online business from scratch which the event did not really put a lot of emphasize on.. however, on the other hand if you think about it, intermediate and advanced marketers will start to rise another issue about it if uymg kl is too basic… i guess it is hard to achieve a good balance..

    for me personally, i learned some new stuff from this uymg too.. but i know much of these stuff are too advanced for newbies.. for example, on day 1, mike filsaime and greg cesar went on stage to talk about some of the advanced strategies of marketing online.. and i knew this will blow many newbies out of the league because when the newbies do not even know what is a sales funnel or PPC advertisments, all the talk about one-time offers, advanced adwords strategies etc will only confuse them in their new-found internet marketing journey..

    plus the fact that some of these newbies could be new at such events organised by Success Resources and are not remotely aware of the fact that it is very typical of Success Resources to put speakers on stage to speak, and then slap the audience over and over again with sales pitches.. but then again if you think about it, how can a speaker share most of the things that he know without an hour or two? so it is not totally unrealistic for such sales pitches to happen because there will always be audience who wanted more and are willing to pay for it…

    just my 2 cents worth

  4. 4 On October 5th, 2007, rmpmax said:

    Hi…

    I haven’t been to UYMG yet, I will go to the one in Sydney next month…I am a newbie too, been on the online marketing for 3 months, and been learning a lot in the past 3 months and still learning. I believe that newbies will need to learn the theory and also do the practical steps first before they go to UYMG to get more benefits rather than expecting to be spoon fed by the speakers to show them how to build a website from scratch and learn the basic steps. At the end of the day, it is back to a person’s responsibility if he/she wants to learn something and get the most out of it rather than depending on 1 weekend seminar or a quick steps to build a website. Like any other learning, it is a process and it takes time…

    rmpmax
    www.rmpwealth.com

  5. 5 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey SK,

    Read your post, in fact a couple of post on UYMG and your views. Great summary and sharing. :)

    If you are interested in what happened at UYMG, check this post out:

    http://blog.successdynamic.com/point-to-ponder/an-awesome-uymg-malaysia/

    Cheers
    James

    PS: I’m proud to be one of Stephen’s Alpha Leaders :)

  6. 6 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey Dorothy,

    Speaking words of wisdom again! I love it.

    It’s true, if they had a problem with the event. They should talk directly with the organizers and sort it out instead of bad mouthing all over the internet. :)

    Thanks for your support :)

    Cheers
    James

  7. 7 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey Donald,

    Like I told my coaching students, UYMG stands for Unleashed Your Marketing Genius. That tells you that it’s all about Marketing :P

    If it had been about how to building a internet site/blog, it would have been called How To Start Your Internet Business instead.

    So yeah, you are very right in saying that there was a mismatch in expectation. I just wonder whether where they given the wrong impression or they form the wrong impression themselves.

    Cheers
    James

  8. 8 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey rmpmax,

    That’s the right mindset! I just wish those participants who complained had your frame of mind instead of what they brought to the seminar. At least they would have benefited from it :)

    Cheers
    James

  9. 9 On October 5th, 2007, SK said:

    Hi James,

    Thanks for your comment on my blog. Different people come with different expectation and I have just put up a metaphor on getting help on my blog

    Title: OH God, why didn’t you help me.

    http://blog.successdynamic.com/point-to-ponder/oh-god-why-didnt-you-help-me/

    Hope it help!

    SK

    from Kuching.

  10. 10 On October 5th, 2007, Steven Goh said:

    To me I find this UYMG only work for the person that have already have basic and want to proceed to intermediate. For the PRO, this is not a place for you. You need to have special package like some ‘underground’ stuff, you might need to acquire the guidance from one of the speaker. Btw, I had talked to Patric Chan in person and I find out his package is interesting with a lot of PRO workshop and will guaranty you earn some minimum amount. Have anyone tried that?

    In summary, this course teaches a lot of theories more than the actual hands on. The give you the ideas but the rest on working out are up to you to figure out.

  11. 11 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey SK,

    Nice story on self help. Thanks for sharing :)

    Cheers
    James

  12. 12 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey Steven,

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts and great that you provide some supporting details :)

    I’ll share with you my experience when I join UYMG in March 07 held in Singapore with 0 experience in Internet Marketing. I learn a lot from it, some where too advance for me so I KIVed them but for the most part, I do gain.

    There are 2 ways to learn Internet Marketing: Self Taught Or Get a Mentor. If Patric’s program sounds good, what are you waiting for?

    For a seminar this size, it has a lot of hands-on. The only way to get more is in class room size coaching program. If you know of any other seminar that had more hands on for 600 participants, remember to tell me. Seriously :)

    Remember what Storm said: Giving without earning is Charity and I know UYMG is not a charity. But I do know it is the perfect platform for you to find a mentor :)

    Cheers
    James

  13. 13 On October 5th, 2007, Raymond said:

    I got the same feedback too and I was just thinking about blog about it today. ;)

    I’ll give my point of view in my blog today. :)

  14. 14 On October 5th, 2007, Shafir Ahmad said:

    How dare you even hint that UYMG was a waste of money!

    I would consider myself to be an experienced marketer. I have been marketing on the internet singe 1996, and have attended at least 8 marketing seminars over the past 2 years.

    I could say that all of them sounded similar, but there are always differences. You get different speakers, their experiences and their point of views. Do you know how much each speaker charges for a personal 1 on 1 consultation call with them? Its in the thousands of dollars per hour. Now, you don’t get a 1on1 experience with 600 other participants in the room - but there is a whole lot of great information being delivered - yes, I did learn many new things even though I am an experienced marketer.

    For those who say they did not learn anything - something is wrong. They must have closed their mind to learning the new stuff or generalized everything to fit into their paradigm of what the internet is about. For these folks, I can only pray that they will find some useful information.

    For example, I have listened to John Childer’s presentation 3 times (It sounded to me like the exact same presentation), but each time, something new struck at my core, and I learned more with each repetition. Did he deliver the same speech. Probably. But did I learn something new each time? Absolutely!

    And the complaint about the sales pitches - oh man, that must be the best part of each speakers presentation for me. I just love to analyse their sales itches, the tone of voice they use, the bonuses, the hot buttons, what gets people excited, and how they demonstrate the extreme value and then they show the price, which is always a mere fraction of the expected value.

    There was plenty of hands on for those who attended. Too much in fact for the people strugling to follow the speakers, and too little for the advanced guys who had seen it all before. Overall, it was a nice balance.

    As an alpha leader, one of my unstated jobs was to help people around the room with their internet problems. While I can understand pele having problems connecting to the internet (I worked in a large company with hundreds of machines connected, and these problems are COMMON!), and the number of issues there was quite minimal. You should have seen other hands-on workshops where the network crashed from the load.

    Was selling wrong? If you are an internet marketer and you do not sell, then you are a contradiction in terms. Of course they have to sell, otherwise they would not be a marketer. If you want people who do not sell, sign up for a HTML course at your local area, There they will not pitch you for 3000 dollar upsells, but (I have seen this before) they will, at the conclusion of the course, ask you to take up the intermediate course. Isn’t that the same, only difference, its not the speaker pitching, but the institute itself.

    I’ve rambled on long enough already. I have lots of notes and learnings from this event, and when I apply them, my income is sure to soar to new heights.

    Shafir Ahmad
    www.shafirahmad.com

  15. 15 On October 5th, 2007, SK said:

    Few things I learn from attending many seminars,

    1. There will always be people who complaint that they did not get their money worth and be sour and do not do anything.

    2. There will always be people who feel that the information is too much for them to handle, get information overload and paralysis due to analysis.

    3. There are some who just silently apply what they have learned.

    Personally, I would prefer more of 1 & 2, why, less competition in future.

    SK

  16. 16 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey Raymond,

    Let my thoughts at your blog too :)

    For those who are interested to read Raymonds view, check it out here:

    http://attractingyourgoals.com/do-you-think-this-is-a-waste-of-time-and-money/

    Cheers
    James

  17. 17 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Hey Shafir,

    Glad you could drop by. Did my title catch your attention :P

    Great sharing and analysis you have there. You have stated what I wanted to say all along! Awesome :)

    And you know what? You should drop by more often :)

    Thanks
    James

  18. 18 On October 5th, 2007, JamesKaren said:

    Oh SK … you are wicked! :P

  19. 19 On October 9th, 2007, Smart Marketing Coaching Club » Blog Archive » Shafir’s View said:

    […] our discussion about whether or not seminars like UYMG are a waste of time…reprinted from James and Karen’s blog, with permission, from Shafir […]

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